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Oh shit Vabbi has already started regurgitating some exPiken players back to piken... you can tell by the type of salt in team chat. In that it's not about dollies.

Also I asked for gud players, and he must be good cos he pissed off the locals on his first day back.

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Finally realised stacking everyone on one server sucks as you don’t get no competition or fun. Oh gee who saw that one coming..

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1 hour ago, shmead said:

Finally realised stacking everyone on one server sucks as you don’t get no competition or fun. Oh gee who saw that one coming..

stacking everyone ? wtf dude ?

 we actualy left every stacked server for  sake of game balance, and  went on  a break when vabbi    faceroll everyone twice, 2 years ago  when was  vabbi + deso now when vabbi with UW

can't say similar things about you ?

Did you saw us advertise or beg for players on any forum ? how exactly we stack ? 

please don;t be delusional

we just let the others get a bit of morale than we come faceroll again

 

 

 

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Because everyone flocked to the server? that's called the server being stacked, especially people who have a lot more of a "tryhard" mentality in "pug" blobs.

Yes but you weren't the only ones who went to Vabbi, talking to the population of wvw'ers who probably don't even come on this website anymore..

Me? I joined sure, to see how it was. Didn't enjoy it too much tbh, it's why I left after 3-4 weeks..

I'm not being delusional, I believe you are but okay keep thinking that way :)

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1 hour ago, shmead said:

Because everyone flocked to the server? that's called the server being stacked, especially people who have a lot more of a "tryhard" mentality in "pug" blobs.

Yes but you weren't the only ones who went to Vabbi, talking to the population of wvw'ers who probably don't even come on this website anymore..

Me? I joined sure, to see how it was. Didn't enjoy it too much tbh, it's why I left after 3-4 weeks..

I'm not being delusional, I believe you are but okay keep thinking that way :)

ok , so we stacked sfr, 4 years ago , than we stacked fsp , than we stacked vabbi , than again vabbi

yet in  over 5 years you didn;t managed to  stack gankdara even once to decent lvl ?

So wherever we go even  vabbi that was a linked server in tier 5 , so we had to bring it twice in tier 1 " is called stacked" 

You are  exactly like the rest of retards, that belive they are at a decent level because they can tag up on ebg and get 50 on tag and win some  fights

Mate, i never heard of you going for a full defended  tier 3, haven;t saw you going with 3-5 players in squad,  to do anything. You  are    not even decent  after 5 years  cause you have no clue about the game yet. 

Go on a bottom tier  linked server with your trash guild, make it main server, and stack it as much as you want or can  like we did with TT/Ez, than we talk about stacking servers. You can;t because you fucking suck at this game,  Now go back to your corner  with bezainas and the rest of the retards

 

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Veteran Dolyak said:

ravtard on full autism tonight, you know your server is full of cunts and delusional idiots. trash server to the max

hallo , i  am not escorting your mom, she carry  only 20 supply :( she is sick

is your dad a packed dolly ?

 

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14 minutes ago, Veteran Dolyak said:

ravtard*, should thank me while you're at it you bellend

bellend ?  is that how your mom call you when she open bassement dor ?

 

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we carebear your toxic attitudes and ppt for your lazy asses and in return you guys get our kdr above 1.0  mkay?

lol ,they'll have a big work to do ,with the pro-backpedaling piken pug quality xDD

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20 hours ago, Rav said:

ok , so we stacked sfr, 4 years ago , than we stacked fsp , than we stacked vabbi , than again vabbi

yet in  over 5 years you didn;t managed to  stack gankdara even once to decent lvl ?

So wherever we go even  vabbi that was a linked server in tier 5 , so we had to bring it twice in tier 1 " is called stacked" 

You are  exactly like the rest of retards, that belive they are at a decent level because they can tag up on ebg and get 50 on tag and win some  fights

Mate, i never heard of you going for a full defended  tier 3, haven;t saw you going with 3-5 players in squad,  to do anything. You  are    not even decent  after 5 years  cause you have no clue about the game yet. 

Go on a bottom tier  linked server with your trash guild, make it main server, and stack it as much as you want or can  like we did with TT/Ez, than we talk about stacking servers. You can;t because you fucking suck at this game,  Now go back to your corner  with bezainas and the rest of the retards

 

 

 

 

I’ve never tried to stack gandara. I believe the community is one of the better ones even though it can be toxic at some times even though rarely.

considering I mainly tag up on borders, I hardly believe your Eb point is true and I’ve had good fights in borders and Eb. Also I’ve claimed to never be a good commander just better than average..

ive defended tier 3 all the time and “accidentally” lost t3 am as I believe it’s boring to have tier 3 am due to t amount of people that afk there and sit on siege.. I’ve done my roaming time unfortunately got boring for me..

please don’t put me in the same group as Bez that’s an insult even to me. I don’t want to go and create a server with people I want to play with because I’m already on it :)

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On 1/3/2018 at 11:49 PM, Threather said:

...only quality players (no rangers, thiefs etc. .,

Only in a game as scrubby as GW2 WvW do you get players this dumb, quality has nothing to do with what you choose to play.

This is going to come as a shock to you, but the number of quality players in this game is tiny, and virtually none of them will be blobbing around in WvW this week, because that is barely PvP in any real sense, so only ignorant PvE scrubs take it seriously.

And that is the difference between people who play whatever is the current tryhard class and those who don't, scrubs take blobbing around in WvW seriously, others don't , so play what they enjoy, which is why if say Rom decided to come back to the game and blob around on his druid for a bit, he would still be one of the few quality players in this game, whilst you (and 99.9% of WvW blobbers) on whatever tryhard class you play would still be low quality trash in comparison.

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21 hours ago, Mr Tickle said:

 Quality has nothing to do with what you choose to play.

It has something to do with the kind of the fights I was talking about. The context. Nothing wrong with thief or ranger for roaming.

First of all, it may not come surprising to you but low stab, low AoEclenase, low corrupt, low AoE, low support classes aren't capable of performing that well in 20 v 50. Or even in 60v60.

The quality also has to do with what specs/classes people decide to bring to which scale of fights. Not even your belowed Rom would bring 4 signet staff ele with earth traits.

21 hours ago, Mr Tickle said:

Which is why if say Rom decided to come back to the game and blob around on his druid for a bit, he would still be one of the few quality players in this game,

Well I did touch PvP for a bit some seasons where I was playing around same MMR as Rom and other. I was amongst the first to hit legendary in season 3 & 1(which were pretty much only seasons i played PvP) and one of the best scrappers season 1. True that I didn't spend all my ingame time for 1v1s and 5v5s meaning there are lot of better players for that there. I still would take it seriously if id take part in it.

Pst: Also the fact that you suggest hed still play druid instead of soul beast is kinda hilarious, have you even logged in in past 4 months or just watch twitch streams? Also he had history with guardian and warrior, he would most likely reroll something else considering soulbeast mechanics seem more fun. As a bigshot ex-support guardian player, he could even be hyped about firebrand.

21 hours ago, Mr Tickle said:

And that is the difference between people who play whatever is the current tryhard class and those who don't, scrubs take blobbing around in WvW seriously.

Well I did play power reaper dealing top damage + corrupts in the shout condi epi meta. It wasnt meta. Also I mained scrapper for ages in blobbing until they buffed necro axe 3 + bitter chill making it impossible to use in the reaper shout spam meta. It wasnt meta. Past weeks I have been playing Sword Weaver in blobs having a blast, which definitely will never be meta.... 

So you can make your assumptions, but I am actually one of the people who supports nonmeta builds as long as they perform decently in the current scale of fights. Thief and ranger unfortunately don't fit there. GS shatter mesmer might as long as he knows his combos (because they're AoE).

 

Dont forget, some people play to win. And in 20v50 scale you typically want to bring a class that at least allows you a chance to win. Isn't this what top PvP players would do? They are willing to RELOG incase their team has 5 mesmers or enemy is full scourges... So class choice is not quality in WvW, but it is in PvP? Wowww....

 

edit: I am adding this historic thread from another user so you can see what builds people would play if they only play for fun. This is what you want?

 

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On 1/7/2018 at 12:59 PM, Threather said:

It has something to do with the kind of the fights I was talking about. The context. Nothing wrong with thief or ranger for roaming.

 

What I said was within the context of blobbing, you are confusing effectiveness with player quality, a trash player on a more effective class is still trash, one of the best players in the game on a less effective class is still one of the best players in the game, and actual 'quality' as opposed to varying the degrees of bad that most GW2 blobbers are.

 

On 1/7/2018 at 12:59 PM, Threather said:

Not even your belowed Rom would bring 4 signet staff ele with earth traits.

 

He is not my "beloved" Rom, he was simply one of the few players in this trash tier game (skillwise) that could actually be described as quality, and I agree he wouldn't  play 4 signet staff ele in a blob, the reality is he wouldn't blob because he'd get bored of it, because it is not even PvP in any meaningful sense and is so low skilled and so mindless that it has any quality player falling asleep, blobbing is pretty much "PvP" for PvE players.

 

On 1/7/2018 at 12:59 PM, Threather said:

Well I did touch PvP for a bit some seasons where I was playing around same MMR as Rom and other. I was amongst the first to hit legendary in season 3 & 1(which were pretty much only seasons i played PvP) and one of the best scrappers season 1.

 

Let me explain 'quality' to you, in the world of video games GW2 is a low skilled, casual MMORPG, where most of the playerbase want to play dress-up, which only ever had a very small competitive playerbase (which is now at the point of being virtually non-existent), the number of players who were ever actually 'quality' in this game was tiny, most players in this game are just varying degrees of bad and mediocre at best.

 

The only bit of this game that had any real sort of test of quality players was PvP back when they had tournaments, and even then the reality is that only about 5 or so teams ever really managed to be at the level where they played it competently, those and handful of others were quality players.

 

As for legendary, pls stop making me laugh, I got legendary, I am not quality, Stence got legendary, which should tell you everything you need to know.

On 1/7/2018 at 12:59 PM, Threather said:

Past weeks I have been playing Sword Weaver in blobs having a blast, which definitely will never be meta.... 

 

And you will still be player of whatever quality you are on your non-meta class, where as there will be plenty of players on guards, necros, etc who be trash tier quality.

 

On 1/7/2018 at 12:59 PM, Threather said:

Dont forget, some people play to win.

 

Putting aside people playing to win at blobbing in a game mode that is competitively a joke, is funny, that is the actual difference (or one of them)  between someone who plays an off-meta class and someone who plays meta, not the quality of the player, one prioritizes "winning" blob fights (or is often the case for many of the PvE players who call themselves WvW players - getting more bags), the other prioritizes playing what they find fun to play, and often considered blobbing around in WvW as not something to take seriously.

 

On 1/7/2018 at 12:59 PM, Threather said:

 Isn't this what top PvP players would do?

 

You know long ago, when mesmer was in a particularly shitty spot in PvP, Helseth eventually switched to necro for tournaments (and I mean ESL tournaments, etc), yet other than scrims that is the only place he played necro, because it bored him to death, so even when he queued for team/solo queue with his place on the leaderboards up for grabs, he played the then sub-par mesmer.

 

Now whatever you may think of the "competitiveness" or importance of matches or the leaderboards in PvP, they are still several rungs up the ladder from blobbing in WvW, and whatever you may think of Helseth, the reality is he was actually a competitive player, unlike 99% of the imbeciles in WvW who like to claim they are, yet play a game mode that is a joke competitively, so what you have is even for someone who by the standards of GW2 was one of the few competitive players, playing in a more competitive game mode, choosing to play what he finds most fun, rather than what may be most effective.

 

And guess what, after a short time, he basically said 'screw it' and went back to mesmer for tournies, yet scrubs in WvW go on about playing the right class as if their life depended on, which is exactly why they will always be scrubs and why they spend their time blobbing.

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On 12.1.2018 at 12:46 PM, Mr Tickle said:

 

What I said was within the context of blobbing, you are confusing effectiveness with player quality, a trash player on a more effective class is still trash, one of the best players in the game on a less effective class is still one of the best players in the game, and actual 'quality' as opposed to varying the degrees of bad that most GW2 blobbers are.

 

Blobbing, zerging and whatever is a skill of its own. Now you might have never had fun at it so you don't understand it. I will explain you the basics: 1) Single-targeting is the most important part of the fights because anyone AoE bombs relatively well. Same as in PvP 2) You have typically 1 energy sigil. Meaning if you dodge, you can swap weapons/legends/shroud for another dodge. Wow. Now you just need to use it to dodge relevant damage. Wow the mechanics are much like in PvP. 3)  There are multiple different scale of fights, meaning relogging correct class and changing your build when necessary is more important than in PvP where meta is built around 5v5.

On 12.1.2018 at 12:46 PM, Mr Tickle said:

He is not my "beloved" Rom, he was simply one of the few players in this trash tier game (skillwise) that could actually be described as quality, and I agree he wouldn't  play 4 signet staff ele in a blob, the reality is he wouldn't blob because he'd get bored of it,

Well blobbing is only one part of the WvW but as you know propably, Rom used to WvW. Back in the old days, way more than the moments they were streaming it brifly for a few months. They were there running around, sometimes participating in fights. They were helping deso nightcrew doing things while talking to their friends before going to bed. I doubt they were bored even if there was no enemy. It was called casual fun with friends. They are humans after all.

On 12.1.2018 at 12:46 PM, Mr Tickle said:


The only bit of this game that had any real sort of test of quality players was PvP back when they had tournaments, and even then the reality is that only about 5 or so teams ever really managed to be at the level where they played it competently, those and handful of others were quality players.

I feel like youre stuck on an idea that there are no good players outside PvP tournaments that were held like 5 years ago. Apparently there was not enough time in between for someone else to get good. I mean it makes sense, because they are famous and you made an human error here. Its like theres no good musicians or martial artists outside your knowledge, whichever swings your boat. Rom quit because there was no official tournaments to fight in anymore, not because the quality of the players.

On 12.1.2018 at 12:46 PM, Mr Tickle said:

And you will still be player of whatever quality you are on your non-meta class, where as there will be plenty of players on guards, necros, etc who be trash tier quality.

Yes that is the same in PvP and PvE. Now lets say PvP has 95% thrash players, PvE has 99.9%. From my experience, WvW has most likely like 15 good players per server if you include GvGers that are good in PvP/WvW also and like 1500 players active in average meaning 99%  players are thrash mechanically. Of course there are players like Sizer and sinderer, that show up in WvW sometimes to kill people when there's long PvP queues but they can't really be considered WvW players.

 

On 12.1.2018 at 12:46 PM, Mr Tickle said:

You know long ago, when mesmer was in a particularly shitty spot in PvP, Helseth eventually switched to necro for tournaments (and I mean ESL tournaments, etc), yet other than scrims that is the only place he played necro, because it bored him to death, so even when he queued for team/solo queue with his place on the leaderboards up for grabs, he played the then sub-par mesmer.

Well this is an interesting point that reflects WvW pretty well. Like Helseth played necro when it mattered but fun classes otherwise, good WvW players also do that.

Typically a WvW server has like 20 thrash commanders and 1 good one. Meaning when this good one is tagged that you like, its like your "pvp team" so you will relog a suitable class when this commander is struggling in fights. Also there are fights that dont matter to you personally. Like lets say you have a casual commander with shitty foods and possibly hes a reaper instead of guardian. Then its like a shitty casual PvP ranked game so you can just keep playing your fun class like gravity well mesmer or axe shield warrior 1v1ing and 1v2ing people. Because whats the point of playing AoE class like spamming rev hammer 2s and 3s mindlessly unless you get a boner out of oneshotting some PvE scrubs.

On 12.1.2018 at 12:46 PM, Mr Tickle said:

And guess what, after a short time, he basically said 'screw it' and went back to mesmer for tournies, yet scrubs in WvW go on about playing the right class as if their life depended on, which is exactly why they will always be scrubs and why they spend their time blobbing.

I can't emphasize this enough but WvW is not just blobs. Its also small scale like killing roamer guilds coming to spawn gank your server. 5v5s etc etc. Like the most interesting fights are something like 15v20 in hills or something when the losing defending side is respawning and your the attacker numbers are slowly dwindling leading into over 30 minute intense fight.

 

Overall the WvW fights are not very interesting atm because the meta is pretty much same as in PvP, maybe even more cancerous because there are more stats to choose from. Tanky Scourges spamming skills locking people out lot of interesting melee-engage specs (because surprisingly majority of the defensive mechanics and offensive bursts are bound to going melee) and minstrel firebrands supporting them. in WvW its hammer revs instead of condi mirages running about oneshotting people trying to stop scourge from winning all fights.

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On 1/14/2018 at 10:25 AM, Threather said:

Blobbing, zerging and whatever is a skill of its own. Now you might have never had fun at it so you don't understand it....

Come back when you can read English, I know how blobbing works, that has nothing to do with what I wrote.

 

On 1/14/2018 at 10:25 AM, Threather said:

Rom used to WvW. Back in the old days,

I was on Deso, in all that time I recall him coming into WvW TS once to "blob" (he got bored and left) and that was it, the rest of the time he played small scale, or skirmished around the blob, and when he skimished around the blob he played what class/build he liked because it simply didn't matter he was mucking around in WvW. 

 

On 1/14/2018 at 10:25 AM, Threather said:

I feel like youre stuck on an idea that there are no good players outside PvP tournaments that were held like 5 years ago. Apparently there was not enough time in between for someone else to get good. I mean it makes sense, because they are famous and you made an human error here.

Irony... I picked a "famous" player as an example simply on the basis you or anyone else is more likely to know who I am talking about. As for outside of PvP tournaments, you rather missed the point, this game is as a generalisation relatively low skilled and lacking a competitive playerbase, so I'd say the only place in GW2 where the skill level was high enough and the competitiveness enough for players really to show they are actually good, was the PvP tournaments, being "good" at blobbing is an oxymoron. (Go see what happened to your TA heroes when they entered a tournament for an example of why most even supposed "good" WvW players aren't really)

And as for "5 years ago", if I remember correctly the last tournament was 2016, and no people don't magically get "good" in a game with a declining population and with virtually no competitive playerbase or format anymore to push people into "getting good", there were far more 'good' players 2 years ago than they are now.

 

On 1/14/2018 at 10:25 AM, Threather said:

Well this is an interesting point that reflects WvW pretty well. Like Helseth played necro when it mattered but fun classes otherwise, good WvW players also do that.

Whoosh...  The point was he only switched class when there was prize money on the line, yet when he queued in ranked he didn't switch class, and that ranked PvP is several rungs up the ladders in terms of "mattering" than blobbing around in WvW which doesn't matter at all in comparison, unless you are clinically retarded, so what you had was an actual good player not switching class, and playing what he found most fun over what may be most effective in something that matters more than blobbing.

 

Hence being "good" and switching classes are two entirely different things, people that switch classes have one priority those who don't have different priorities.

 

On 1/14/2018 at 10:25 AM, Threather said:

I can't emphasize this enough but WvW is not just blobs. Its also small scale like killing roamer guilds coming to spawn gank your server. 5v5s etc etc. Like the most interesting fights are something like 15v20 in hills or something when the losing defending side is respawning and your the attacker numbers are slowly dwindling leading into over 30 minute intense fight.

 

Roaming is dead in WvW,  it has basically degenerated into duels or ganking the back of zergs / zerglings trying to get back to zerg, that isn't roaming.

 

On 1/14/2018 at 10:25 AM, Threather said:

Overall the WvW fights are not very interesting atm...

 

WvW fights have not really been interesting since pre-HoT, which is one of the reasons most of the more fight orientated WvW players have left the game (as opposed to PvE or bag players as Ogma would put it).

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